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.:KokeKiko WIP A:.by =Anilexus-Raiyne

Digital Art / Drawings / Fantasy

_{A commission for *Flarekage1. This is it so far and I wanted to show yall and rahh >.<;;

Koketsune (c) *Flarekage1
Sakiko (c) =Anilexus-Raiyne}

Critique by *Flarekage1 Dec 5, 2012, 8:48:59 AM

As an actual piece so far it is good, but thats because its not finished. Its got nice color so far, and with knowledge of what our fursonas are the proportions arent that bad. BUT if you didnt know than koke looks huge. The pose is nice and cute, i like sakikos expression XD. I like how you colored the sky and i like how you did the stars. The grass is eh, but i dont know how to do grass either so yea. So far it looks good, i cant wait until it is actually complete, and when it is ill give my full critique.

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~StrawberryR Dec 5, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

The poses seem kind of stiff, and the anatomy isn't very good. Your proportion and perspective both need improvement. I like the background, though, it's better than what I could do.

=Anilexus-Raiyne Dec 6, 2012 Student General Artist

_{As I've stated, this is still a WIP. It's not gonna be perfect.

"The poses seem kind of stiff" - This is a picture with my phone and I havent gone over the basic lines, I've not coloured them, and in fact I haven't even finished them.

"the anatomy isn't very good" - Yet, its better than what it used to be. Also, keep in mind - they're furries. They're not humans, so they're not going to have 100% human anatomy.

Koke is a Husky and Sakiko is a Welsh Springer Spaniel + Aussie Shepord mix. He's a lot bigger than her, so of course its gonna look disproportional.

Perspective, I'm not understanding exactly what "needs improvement".

>>The only thing positive about this comment is about the background. Yet, if it was uncoloured, you would probably tell me I needed to work on it too /:}

~StrawberryR Dec 6, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Well, yeah, duh, no WIP is finished, that's what "WIP" stands for. I'm just saying, there are still issues with it that can be fixed before the piece is finished and harder to edit.

1. All the better to fix them before they're finished, then.

2. Even so, there isn't a dog/cat/thing animal that has limbs that long, or shoulders of that shape.

3. I didn't mean to each other, I meant in general. The one on the left, her leg further in the back is too small. It doesn't look right. Their shoulders/necks are too slumped for their bodies/heads as well, regardless of head size, or at lesat that one on the right.

4. Things get smaller as they go back, but with their bodies it doesn't seem to be working very well. I can't put this into words very well, but I can tell something is wrong with how their bodies/limbs go off into the distance. Like the one on the left, her eye further back is off-center from where it'd be at that angle. The one on the right, his left shoudler (his left, not ours) is sticking out too far for his shoulders at that angle. Perhaps push it back a bit, or shift the lower part of his body?

"The Artist has requested Critique on this Artwork"
You wanted Critiques, right? Well, I critiqued. It's a criticism, they both have the same root word. I said what needed improvement, and I suppose I should have elaborated more on how to improve it. Well, now I have. If you want Critiques, expect criticism. If you wanted people to tell you how GOOD it is, you should've asked for that instead.

I'm not being mean, I'm just being honest.

=Anilexus-Raiyne Dec 6, 2012 Student General Artist

_{At least I'm better than what I used to be. I know that I need to improve on things- You can never be a perfect artist. You always have room to improve. But if you look, my muzzles are better, holy crap there's a background, I at least have some proportion- better than none at all, which is what I used to have.

I'm doing everything possible to improve my artwork, but I only have so much time any more.

>>""The Artist has requested Critique on this Artwork"
You wanted Critiques, right? Well, I critiqued. It's a criticism, they both have the same root word. I said what needed improvement, and I suppose I should have elaborated more on how to improve it. Well, now I have. If you want Critiques, expect criticism. If you wanted people to tell you how GOOD it is, you should've asked for that instead."

^ That right there was uncalled for. That was you just being an ass for the sake of being one. And knowing that you think I'm a horrible artist, and that I should stop trying (your words.), I'm going to assume that you're just being an ass. Critiques, you point out what is wrong and explain why you think it is. Not just state it like its a gods given fact.

Critiques, you point out whats good, whats improved, and what needs to improve. You dont just say whats wrong.
The first one was not a critiqe, just being rude and uncalled for.

The second one was one, however.}

~StrawberryR Dec 6, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Well, that's good. Improvement is always positive.

If you're doing everything possible, why are you getting mad when I make suggestions?

I'm not TRYING to be an ass. Do you know hard it is to convey emotion over the Internet? Also, where did I say you should stop trying? I don't think I ever said that.

Okay, I suppose I forgot to explain WHY it was off in my first comment, I'm sorry. I did elaborate in the second comment, however. Did you read it?

The first one also was. It wasn't very in-depth, but it was a quick ciritque. I said what needed improvement and what I liked. Then you got mad at me because it wasn't full of compliments. It wasn't "uncalled for," it was just poorly written. I wasn't TRYING to be rude either.

What's rude is asking for citiques, and getting mad at somebody when they're just trying to help.

=Anilexus-Raiyne Dec 6, 2012 Student General Artist

_{I'm not mad, thank you very much.

If anything, I'm more hurt.

I pour my heart and soul into my work, but people dont ever notice. They never notice if something is good or if something is an improvement. Only whats wrong with it.

And what hurts even more is that I value your opinion more because I can actually improve my art when its explained to me where I need to work, and you're pretty much the only person who will do that. No one else ever gives me actual feedback ._.

But then again, you dont even like my art /:

Also, you told me that in the note you sent me I think it was last year.}

~StrawberryR Dec 6, 2012 Hobbyist Traditional Artist

It sounded mad. I'm sorry.

That's because it's hard to notice when something's improved unless you look at it every day. We don't, but you do.

?? Well, I tried to give some feedback just now. Honestly, I feel like if you're going to excuse yourself and get upset when I don't do it right, maybe I shouldn't give you feedback.

Even if I don't particularly like it, it doesn't mean I won't ever try to help you improve.

...I don't remember that, but okay. o-o

=Anilexus-Raiyne Dec 7, 2012 Student General Artist

_{Nope. Not mad.

/: If you've watched my art for as long as you have, you can see the improvement just by looking; if youve been paying attention.

And I used the advice. I take all advice to heart, believe it or not.

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Yupp o-o;}

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